We really need to get on these fights this weekend. Spinch-talk.

[almly]

I know Gil started this same thread but the headline dosent emphasize how important I think it is that we get on these fights right away.
I'm going to Vegas to lay my action and it looks like I'll be playing big money on these. Plus Boston over the A's in their series.

Anyway -
1) Friday night - I have never seen Boswell and dont like to cap a fight that has a guy that Ive never seen. Thats why we need Spinch to give us
100% on this. He's a fuking stud at paper capping. I thought Mcline looked great in his last fight on ESPN after the Klitschko loss and it was frankly the best Ive ever seen him look. Odds are at about -250 for Mcline last time I checked. I have a lean towards Mcline but know nothing about Boswell.

2) Toney vs Holy - I'm looking at doing a big play on this. I think Holy is textbook definition of washed up. He looked horrible against Byrd and it was shown last week that Byrd might not be that great as it is. Toney was around +200 and is now at around +120. As Spinch was talking about when this was first announced its important to see what kind of condition he's in because of his track record. However my lean on this is a strong play on Toney - probably by dec - but just maybe to win.

3) Cassamoyer vs Corrales - Everybody likes Diego in this it seems. He's the favorite. I dont understand why. I like Cassamoyer. Really like him. Diego looks really good against C level fighters but the time he really stepped it up he got killed by Floyd. I thought Cassamoyer lost by one point to Campbell and then Campbell got beat (**** the draw) against Tiger Martinez. Regardless, I like the Cuban here.

Lets sweep the board on these this weekend. Really.

 

[tgoodm1]

1) I would not lay anything on Jameel McCline facing an undefeated prospect. I consider Boswell a prospect only because he has won all of his fights and continues to step up the competition. And although I have never seen Boswell fight either, I would be cautious here. I feel this way because McCline does not seem very sure of himself when in against good opposition. It is only when he catches his opponents with a good shot that he gains the confidence fighters need upon entering the ring. After seeing McCline in the Klitschko fight, I don't know if I will ever bet on him. IMO, he did not look all that impressive in the Shufford win. He caught Shufford with a shot that led to what could have been considered a premature stoppage.

2) I like Toney's toughness and willingness to stand in toe to toe with other fighters. Unfortunately, this style may present Holyfield the opportunity to look good again, as in the Rahman fight. James will represent a punching bag for Holyfield in this fight. The question is, "Can Holyfield KO Toney?" I do not believe that he can, as Toney has one of the best chins in boxing. So this will be a dangerous fight for Holyfield. One in which he may end up getting KO'd. Toney will have to KO Holyfield or get at least one or two knockdowns to win the fight. I only feel safe saying Holyfield will not win by KO.

3) Indeed Diego Corrales has had trouble in the past facing true boxers. What could only be worse for Corrales? The answer would be facing a southpaw true boxer. My take on this fight is the following. If Corrales does not get the KO or at least some knockdowns, I do not see him winning the fight. I think he will certainly be outboxed here and the fight has an excellent chance of going the distance. I would not even rule out Corrales being stopped late if Casamayor makes the bout a one-sided affair.

 

[Gillian]

Great job. Good calls. Except, I would not rule out Evander getting a KO. Don't forget, Toney has never fought anyone that even comes close to having the power that Evander has. And Evander has knocked down some solid chins: Ray Mercer, Riddick Bowe. The only person who has had some real ko power is Roy Jones, and he knocked James Toney down. I know for a fact Evander hits harder than Jones. And if Evander can ko Mike Tyson, he can KO James Toney. This is heavyweight boxing. Do not rule out Evander getting the KO.

 

[tgoodm1]

I just feel that in addition to losing his explosiveness, Evander has lost his ability to endure throughout the fight. As the fight wears on, he will eventually fade and not provide us with that energy the "Real Deal" became famous for in his younger days.

Everything that made Evander, such as his victories over Tyson, Bowe, and Foreman occured in Evander's youth (34 or younger). Since, Evander has been nothing more than a faded champ in denial. He will tire before knocking out James Toney, as did Jirov.

 

[sphincter]

imo,toney`s weight will be a major factor in how this one plays out.....remember,this guy has a middleweight`s` frame......he can only carry so much weight effectively for 12 rounds.....toney will inevitably end up in a corner or against the ropes....i`m waiting to see how much toney`s gonna weigh and i`m trying to see some film of him training or at least some pictures.....if he`s 210 or higher,i don`t see him possibly being able to carry that kind of weight with quickness and stamina for 12 rounds..he was exhausted late vs jirov.....but to be fair,jirov sets an enormous pace......could be alot of clinching and laying on one another from the middle to late rounds on....


there are so many friggin` fights this weekend,it`s almost overkill....

a guy i`ve been tracking is cruz carbajal....has an absolutely lousy record as far as champions go..constantly fought in the other guy`s hometown early in his career....he was thrown in vs top competition early and just now appears to be finding himself later in his career......he`s fighting gerardo espinosa who is 25-4 w/23 k.o.`s.....this guy is about 3 inches taller and is supposedly a puncher.....his record would confirm that...and we`d be working with a 3" height disadvantage...

looking at cruz carbajal -150 to k.o. espinosa.....carbajal is one of those late bloomers..problems early in his career(ala freddy pendleton)...but from what i hear,he`s a legit world class fighter now....i`ve heard he was scheduled with rafael marquez and marquez wasn`t real anxious to get in with him....now he`s a champ and he`s on a roll....and he can punch....and punches alot...has tremendous heart and stamina

espinosa has fought some fights at super bantamweight,and may be a little bigger guy...but he`s been stopped in 3 of his 4 losses and was stopped in his next to last fight last fight by jorge lacierva(a good fighter but not the puncher carbajal is)..and look at epinosa`s record....i think he had numerous soft touches early in his career(unless they just didn`t have records from mexico).....then look at who carbajal has faced.......so many quality fighters....many before he was really ready..most in the other guy`s hometown....i`d be surprised if somebody doesn`t go.....i expect and hope it`s espinosa.......espinosa isn`t a whippet with 23 k.o.`s in 25 wins ,so it should be a punch-out......hopefully under 8....i`m looking at under 8 lightly....nobody`s running here..they`ll be in one another`s face....

carbajal`s record probably concerns many....understandably so....check around the net for more info....don`t go by me......carbajal is rated the #5 or 6 welter by boxing news behind solid guys like marquez,austin and the thai sahaprom....my mexican friend says carbajal is for real....vicious body puncher

somebody`s gonna go here....hopefully it`s espinosa and early.....

make your own decisions...i`ll get back with more if i get something....

btw.....bosweell`s competition has been sketchy.....i understand that he is an excellent gym fighter....but he`s getting old.....when the real bullets fly,who knows....

i agree with b.f. that mccline has awfully little stones for such a big guy...

 

[valdosta]

Just a bit of friendly advice, you can find better lines on the lesser known fights if you know what to look for. The public influences the bigger fights more and makes it harder to find a "bad" line unless the public is on the wrong side (an obvious wrong side).

 

[sphincter]

valdosta....that`s sage advice..all well and good..now put something out there for us....what you just gave us,and 50 cents can get me a cup of coffee somewhere....

c`mon,bud....you know your stuff....give us some opinions.......g.l.

 

[valdosta]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:
valdosta....that`s sage advice..all well and good..now put something out there for us....what you just gave us,and 50 cents can get me a cup of coffee somewhere....

c`mon,bud....you know your stuff....give us some opinions.......g.l.

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Well, my silence is kind of bought off by someone. My 2 big plays this weekend were Nishioka , which I didn't win or lose. It was a draw. I also played Reyes over Cardenas at +350 (when it opened). Reyes kicked the shit out of him. I had some other smaller plays such as Corrales,Munoz,Larsen and Munoz under. I was $400 down going into the Reyes fight. I ended up being WAY in the positive after that fight

 

[sphincter]

was on reyes and larsen,larsen over, myself......lost a toughie with the over in the hernandez-forbes fight.....

they kept talking about forbes head,but it was obviously hernandez jumping in with wild punches that initiated the wager-killing butt.....

continued g.l.

 

[valdosta]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sphincter:
was on reyes and larsen,larsen over, myself......lost a toughie with the over in the hernandez-forbes fight.....

they kept talking about forbes head,but it was obviously hernandez jumping in with wild punches that initiated the wager-killing butt.....

continued g.l.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Damn, I thought the Forbes-Hernandez was a certainty except 1 thing. Hernandez is always butting guys. The same thing happened when he fought Santos in his last fight. Good picks on the rest, actually I think your other 1 was a good pick also, you just got a bad beat.